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DON'T use Apollo.io to build email lists

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7/7/2025

Content Summary

The post criticizes Apollo.io's email verification reliability for enterprise targets and proposes a workflow combining Apollo data scraping via Apify, email verification with MillionVerifier, and using multiple email finders (Laiskas/Anymailfinder/Findymail) to achieve sub-2% bounce rates. Comments praise the method's effectiveness while sharing alternative approaches like combining data from ZoomInfo and Lusha.

Opinion Analysis

Mainstream opinion supports the original workflow for improving email accuracy, with users praising its cost-effectiveness and deliverability results. Some controversy exists around scraping ethics, with one user labeling it #SpamStack. Alternative approaches emerge: ZorroGlitchero advocates combining multiple data sources (Apollo+ZoomInfo+Lusha) with custom scrapers. Debate centers on data quality vs cost - while the original method prioritizes affordability, others emphasize comprehensive verification through multiple premium sources.

SAAS TOOLS

SaaSURLCategoryFeatures/Notes
Apollo.iohttp://apollo.ioSales IntelligenceContact discovery, email automation, company filtering
Apifyhttps://apify.comData ScrapingApollo scraper ($1.20/1000 leads), custom scraping solutions
MillionVerifierhttps://www.millionverifier.comEmail VerificationBulk email validation, low bounce rate guarantee
Laiskas.comhttp://laiskas.comEmail FindingFree plan available, charges per successful find
Anymailfinderhttps://anymailfinder.comEmail FindingBetter free trial, pay-per-success model
Findymailhttps://www.findymail.comEmail FindingReputable but expensive, high accuracy
ZoomInfoNot providedSales IntelligenceData scraping for contact info
LushaNot providedSales IntelligenceContact data scraping

USER NEEDS

Pain Points:

  • Unreliable email verification in Apollo.io
  • High bounce rates from Apollo-verified emails
  • Missing emails for target companies (especially >$10M revenue)
  • Cost concerns with premium email finding services

Problems to Solve:

  • Improving email list accuracy for enterprise targets
  • Reducing email bounce rates below 2%
  • Finding valid emails when Apollo shows none
  • Combining multiple data sources for verification

Potential Solutions:

  • Using Apollo filters without relying on verified status
  • Scraping data via Apify/ExportApollo for cost efficiency
  • Layered verification with MillionVerifier
  • Using multiple email finders (Laiskas/Anymailfinder/Findymail)
  • Combining data from multiple sources (Apollo + ZoomInfo + Lusha)

GROWTH FACTORS

Effective Strategies:

  • Multi-source data aggregation for accuracy
  • Cost-effective scraping solutions
  • Hybrid approach combining free/premium services

Marketing & Acquisition:

  • Highlighting deliverability improvements as key benefit
  • Targeting users frustrated with existing solutions
  • Community-driven workflow sharing

Monetization & Product:

  • Pay-per-success pricing models (Laiskas/Anymailfinder)
  • Tiered pricing for verification services
  • Custom scraping tool development

User Engagement:

  • Sharing detailed workflow guides builds credibility
  • Community validation of methods (e.g. sub-2% bounce rate claims)
  • Encouraging DIY approaches with tool combinations